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		<title>By: London Calling &#187; Mobile advertising&#8217;s success lies on the second screen not the main screen</title>
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		<dc:creator>London Calling &#187; Mobile advertising&#8217;s success lies on the second screen not the main screen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bottom line in the report is very similar to my own views (emphasis is mine) “Deloitte’s view is that over time, mobile advertising should become an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: London Calling &#187; Proof that the mobile really is personal media</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-5273</link>
		<dc:creator>London Calling &#187; Proof that the mobile really is personal media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 08:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are resisting strongly should be an urgent wake up call that mobile advertising is broken (see a previous post on this very subject) and consumers are now wise to the tricks being [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Fletcher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adams Daily Activity for 2008-11-26</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Fletcher &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adams Daily Activity for 2008-11-26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,

I don&#039;t disagree that trust is inherent in any of those things, my point, and perhaps to an extent I&#039;m conflating trust and control here, or I&#039;m taking your Ps a bit too literally, was that trust must be in place before any of those things can take place.

It&#039;s all very well saying &quot;we won&#039;t sell your information&quot;, &quot;we&#039;ll only contact you with newsletters/offers/marketing&quot; or &quot;we&#039;ll only use text messages&quot;, but unless someone is willing to take your word for that, nought will come from it.

There is no denying trust lives in those  3Ps, as transgressions within any of them will quickly decimate any trust anyone has with a provider to safely manage their details. I know I wouldn&#039;t trust the government with my data if I had any say whatsoever in the matter, whereas I voluntarily entrust Tesco with my online browsing history, online and offline purchases and my credit card details on a daily basis.

Perhaps I am being a little over-sensitive with regards to personal data, or applying too much of my personal mores to the manner in which I wish my personal details to be courted from me, but if I&#039;m going to give someone my details, particularly if I&#039;m then going to take extra time to tell them what I want (or, more importantly, don&#039;t want) from them, I want them to put some effort into it, either by offering me something substantial, or by showing, abundantly, that I can trust them to do as I ask.

The thoughts you elucidate above are all permissive actions, conscious choices, manifestations of trust, if there is zero pre-existing trust, the outcome of all three will be nothing. If i trust nobody, my information will be nowhere, I will give nobody any authority to do anything with it, and nothing will happen because nobody knows about me. I&#039;m completely off the grid until someone demonstrates I can trust them with my privacy, permissions and preferences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that trust is inherent in any of those things, my point, and perhaps to an extent I&#8217;m conflating trust and control here, or I&#8217;m taking your Ps a bit too literally, was that trust must be in place before any of those things can take place.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very well saying &#8220;we won&#8217;t sell your information&#8221;, &#8220;we&#8217;ll only contact you with newsletters/offers/marketing&#8221; or &#8220;we&#8217;ll only use text messages&#8221;, but unless someone is willing to take your word for that, nought will come from it.</p>
<p>There is no denying trust lives in those  3Ps, as transgressions within any of them will quickly decimate any trust anyone has with a provider to safely manage their details. I know I wouldn&#8217;t trust the government with my data if I had any say whatsoever in the matter, whereas I voluntarily entrust Tesco with my online browsing history, online and offline purchases and my credit card details on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Perhaps I am being a little over-sensitive with regards to personal data, or applying too much of my personal mores to the manner in which I wish my personal details to be courted from me, but if I&#8217;m going to give someone my details, particularly if I&#8217;m then going to take extra time to tell them what I want (or, more importantly, don&#8217;t want) from them, I want them to put some effort into it, either by offering me something substantial, or by showing, abundantly, that I can trust them to do as I ask.</p>
<p>The thoughts you elucidate above are all permissive actions, conscious choices, manifestations of trust, if there is zero pre-existing trust, the outcome of all three will be nothing. If i trust nobody, my information will be nowhere, I will give nobody any authority to do anything with it, and nothing will happen because nobody knows about me. I&#8217;m completely off the grid until someone demonstrates I can trust them with my privacy, permissions and preferences.</p>
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		<title>By: jMac</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-942</link>
		<dc:creator>jMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Andrew.

Martin. Trust is borne from a number of things, 3 of which are

&#039;where is my information and how is it being used?&#039;

&#039;who will i give my authority to so it can benefit me?&#039;

&#039;what things would i like to happen and via what channel?&#039;

These 3 things are fundamental to building trust. Without trust we have nothing.

Ergo, trust = privacy, permission and preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Andrew.</p>
<p>Martin. Trust is borne from a number of things, 3 of which are</p>
<p>&#8216;where is my information and how is it being used?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;who will i give my authority to so it can benefit me?&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;what things would i like to happen and via what channel?&#8217;</p>
<p>These 3 things are fundamental to building trust. Without trust we have nothing.</p>
<p>Ergo, trust = privacy, permission and preference.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Jonathan&#039;s &quot;3Ps&quot; are undoubtedly useful, I think he rather misses the point. Telephones, particularly mobile telephones, are fundamentally social devices. Mobiles are faster, smarter and more able than ever before, so people naturally use them to control their social interactions - whether with work colleagues via mobile email, friends via SMS or extended friends over mobile web - Facebook &amp;co. People treat transgressions perpetrated in their social environments far more severely than those perpetrated elsewhere c.f. reactions whenever Facebook move something slightly left.

In order to approach, and reap rewards from, mobile contact, concepts far closer to social media need to applied to the platform, and not simply data churning.

Trust is key with social media, and, while Privacy, Permission and Preference are important, they ignore the largest stumbling block which is whether the users actually trust whomever they&#039;re entrusting with their privacy, permission and preference terms. To put the operators in this seat will, in some cases, need a vast investment in brand building and marketing to convince the users that the network is worthy of their trust, and to not brazenly profiteer off the back of their details. To put the brands in this seat, who have already spent millions in some cases building trust, is a natural progression.

The operators aren&#039;t interested, yet, in sitting in that chair - it&#039;s too much hassle. The data generated is a by-product of their industry, the yeast extract of beer making. If they can sell it on to someone who wants to make Marmite out of it, they should, at least in the short term, be perfectly happy to do so, leaving the brands to churn the data, create their own IP and customer relation jumpoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Jonathan&#8217;s &#8220;3Ps&#8221; are undoubtedly useful, I think he rather misses the point. Telephones, particularly mobile telephones, are fundamentally social devices. Mobiles are faster, smarter and more able than ever before, so people naturally use them to control their social interactions &#8211; whether with work colleagues via mobile email, friends via SMS or extended friends over mobile web &#8211; Facebook &amp;co. People treat transgressions perpetrated in their social environments far more severely than those perpetrated elsewhere c.f. reactions whenever Facebook move something slightly left.</p>
<p>In order to approach, and reap rewards from, mobile contact, concepts far closer to social media need to applied to the platform, and not simply data churning.</p>
<p>Trust is key with social media, and, while Privacy, Permission and Preference are important, they ignore the largest stumbling block which is whether the users actually trust whomever they&#8217;re entrusting with their privacy, permission and preference terms. To put the operators in this seat will, in some cases, need a vast investment in brand building and marketing to convince the users that the network is worthy of their trust, and to not brazenly profiteer off the back of their details. To put the brands in this seat, who have already spent millions in some cases building trust, is a natural progression.</p>
<p>The operators aren&#8217;t interested, yet, in sitting in that chair &#8211; it&#8217;s too much hassle. The data generated is a by-product of their industry, the yeast extract of beer making. If they can sell it on to someone who wants to make Marmite out of it, they should, at least in the short term, be perfectly happy to do so, leaving the brands to churn the data, create their own IP and customer relation jumpoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Email Marketing Systems &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>Email Marketing Systems &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] andrew placed an observative post today on Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?Here&#8217;s a quick excerptAnd let’s not forget the euphoria around email and its pivotal role as the perfect “one-to-one” marketing tool. Well, spam changed all that, and no one would regard email as a serious tool today. If you aren’t convinced, then consider &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Email Marketing Strategy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Email Marketing Strategy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] andrew placed an observative post today on Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It?Here&#8217;s a quick excerptAnd let’s not forget the euphoria around email and its pivotal role as the perfect “one-to-one” marketing tool. Well, spam changed all that, and no one would regard email as a serious tool today. If you aren’t convinced, then consider &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: November 5, 2008 Edition</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: November 5, 2008 Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobile Advertising Is Broken - Who Will Fix It? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: London Calling &#187; Carnival of the mobilists 147 at Voip Survivor</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>London Calling &#187; Carnival of the mobilists 147 at Voip Survivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in mobile doesn’t quite cut it yet. For a good explanation of why mobile advertising is broken and ways to fix it, Andrew Grill at London Calling provides a nice summary. Although advertising is not my cup of tea, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in mobile doesn’t quite cut it yet. For a good explanation of why mobile advertising is broken and ways to fix it, Andrew Grill at London Calling provides a nice summary. Although advertising is not my cup of tea, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-887</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giles, I stand corrected.  Thanks for reading and for the comment on the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giles, I stand corrected.  Thanks for reading and for the comment on the post.</p>
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		<title>By: giles rhys jones</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>giles rhys jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50% of our advertising is working we just don&#039;t know what 50% was John Wanamaker in 1866. nice post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50% of our advertising is working we just don&#8217;t know what 50% was John Wanamaker in 1866. nice post.</p>
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		<title>By: Edw3rd</title>
		<link>http://londoncalling.co/2008/10/mobile-advertising-is-broken-who-will-fix-it/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>Edw3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As at least one person on stage rightly pointed out at MWC this year, this has been The Year for Mobile Advertising for nearly a decade.

Let’s recall that TV advertising didn’t explode until the “network” evolved from local broadcasting. National brands wanted to buy national audiences. Same problem arose when the Internet first appeared and anyone with a web site created their Ad Sales team and started calling on brands and agencies. Today every operator wants to be and behaves like a local broadcaster or unique web site. Yet, every brand - and it is every brand - is today a global marketer and they want to buy audience globally. Long tail strategies require it. Remember, for brands the key buying factor remains Scale.
It is simply not efficient for a brand or an agency to buy from so many outlets, in such small media quantities, and with so many unique creative units. Note, the example of Blyk - which I completely agree demonstrates success, functions OUTSIDE of the normal operator-led ad sales channel. And, I’d venture to guess that their Operator partners may review Blyk at the Board level as simply a Strategy Test.

Operators do not seem to be serious about creating or participating in the formation of ad networks - they prefer to pretend they are now media companies. When will they learn? But, when you have big-monied CEO’s and deferential industry groups certain that declining ARPU can be made up by taking share from the Advertising pot, what can one expect? Even the industry association promoted test in the UK has gone nowhere. Why? Not because Buyers don’t want it. The reason is that Sellers prefer to chase the Golden Goose on their own.

I believe it is incorrect to chastise brands that under-investment is the problem or to encourage Operators that only if they engage metrics vendors can they demonstrate the valuation possibilities so brands come to the table(s) - those are simply ways to keep a little momentum going for niche vendors and agencies.
Real change will require an industry change. It will be up to a few Telco CEO’s and the MMA, IAG, GSMA, ANA, CTIA and others to engender industry support.

Not an easy feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As at least one person on stage rightly pointed out at MWC this year, this has been The Year for Mobile Advertising for nearly a decade.</p>
<p>Let’s recall that TV advertising didn’t explode until the “network” evolved from local broadcasting. National brands wanted to buy national audiences. Same problem arose when the Internet first appeared and anyone with a web site created their Ad Sales team and started calling on brands and agencies. Today every operator wants to be and behaves like a local broadcaster or unique web site. Yet, every brand &#8211; and it is every brand &#8211; is today a global marketer and they want to buy audience globally. Long tail strategies require it. Remember, for brands the key buying factor remains Scale.<br />
It is simply not efficient for a brand or an agency to buy from so many outlets, in such small media quantities, and with so many unique creative units. Note, the example of Blyk &#8211; which I completely agree demonstrates success, functions OUTSIDE of the normal operator-led ad sales channel. And, I’d venture to guess that their Operator partners may review Blyk at the Board level as simply a Strategy Test.</p>
<p>Operators do not seem to be serious about creating or participating in the formation of ad networks &#8211; they prefer to pretend they are now media companies. When will they learn? But, when you have big-monied CEO’s and deferential industry groups certain that declining ARPU can be made up by taking share from the Advertising pot, what can one expect? Even the industry association promoted test in the UK has gone nowhere. Why? Not because Buyers don’t want it. The reason is that Sellers prefer to chase the Golden Goose on their own.</p>
<p>I believe it is incorrect to chastise brands that under-investment is the problem or to encourage Operators that only if they engage metrics vendors can they demonstrate the valuation possibilities so brands come to the table(s) &#8211; those are simply ways to keep a little momentum going for niche vendors and agencies.<br />
Real change will require an industry change. It will be up to a few Telco CEO’s and the MMA, IAG, GSMA, ANA, CTIA and others to engender industry support.</p>
<p>Not an easy feat.</p>
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